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broadcasting from the base of la madre

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today's guest exemplifies

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the study of esoterica much like past

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yes our guest is none other than johnny

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enoch serving as a clinical

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hypnotherapist

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esoteric researcher and writer

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he has an unquenchable thirst for

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knowledge which is

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great for a podcast like this

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because any direction we choose stand

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johnny is going to be sure to hit it

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and get us there not only

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has he been researching ancient history

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hidden symbolism and occult subjects

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with tenacity for over 20 years

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but his quest for answers about the

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has led him on travel adventures all

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over the world he nailed

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the pre-covid crisis and was able to

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everybody else was hunkered down before

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and he did so with such ninja travel

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i was wondering where's the crystal ball

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i'm very jealous he is currently writing

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a book

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on ancient consciousness technologies

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and lost civilizations and trust me i

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johnny enoch welcome to the hero

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i'm doing great ryan thanks so much

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great great this is this is sort of your

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specialty so this is just

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amazing for me to to touch base with you

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i wanted to kind of start off because we

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all these issues with protests and blm

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you know history not recognizing african

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americans the way it should

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and i i just wanted to throw something

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at you i'm sure you're knowledgeable of

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and that is uh beverly randolph

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what is your knowledge of him and do you

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believe that he is an african-american

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character in your studies and kind of

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all the esoteric that

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like many has just kind of been

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overlooked yeah well you know pascal

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beverly randolph

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was a very important figure to not only

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but i mean he was a an esoteric

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genius of sorts and he was also involved

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with sex magic and all kind of

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all kinds of experimental mysticism uh

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he made a great contribution

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into these areas uh as an occultist

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and uh when you look at how he was

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coming up with his ideas

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uh i have a a friend out in vancouver

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his name is chris bennett

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and uh he's written some great books

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like libra 420

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and uh sex drugs in the bible where he's

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actually explored the ideas of pascal

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beverly randolph

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entering into these states of mysticism

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using cannabis hashish and

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other sorts of entheogenic spiritual

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mechanisms which is very interesting

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i suppose that you could say that uh

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not only was it a brave territory for

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i i just think that he's one of those

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ideas of western

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mysticism and uh he's he's done some

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very important work in that area

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those strange cases which there's so

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of so i mean there is some grounding

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that and i'm sure you don't either

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but i'm going to just delve

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deeply as at least as deeply as i can

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and kind of kind of

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use your genius in your brain to my

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advantage while i've got you on the line

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um you're you're too kind you got you

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got the same genius brian it takes one

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to know one you know i love this it's

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like mine's coming together

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oh thank you these these ancient

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intelligences which are

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sort of a specialty of yours in the form

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what if anything will the future hold

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for these small groups

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of like dark practicing magical entities

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dark practicing magical entities are we

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about group types of magic are we

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multi-dimensional entities or um how do

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you're absolutely right i guess i'm just

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kind of throwing them all in the laundry

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basket

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and handing them to you and that's kind

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of not really the easiest way to answer

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so the i guess both the observers

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that worship uh witness and follow these

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entities and then i guess the

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well there are many groups out there

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that have many different intentions

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and these groups are held together

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through something called an aggregory

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so what an aggregatory is for those of

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you out there who are new to these

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subjects and agrigory is sort of like an

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algorithm and it's sort of like an

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encryption protocol so let's say

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you wanted to send a message to somebody

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like even whatsapp and you have

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encrypted messages or

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lot about pgp

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and you have this encryption key well

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certain groups work under these

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aggregators energies and ideas

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and thought forms that surround them and

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there are very powerful currents in the

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world right now but these

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these sort of systems and esoteric ideas

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and teachings go back

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a long way ryan they go back way into

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and there's always been two types of

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ideas and two types of thought out there

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things that are things that are

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practiced you have the esoteric

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which of course you know means secret

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the same as the word occult for example

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hidden or clandestine you know uh the

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the hidden teachings

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school bus where they're singing kumbaya

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uh you know this that's it's got this

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idea that people have lumped it in as

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negative but uh occult can something can

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be occult for a good reason

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uh if it's not appreciated or uh people

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don't understand a sort of sacred

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something that's out and about for

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they're all there are

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all kinds of secret teachings

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and ways of unlocking abilities and

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understanding how the universe works and

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peeking behind the curtains

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uh that have been reserved for a very

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for initiates and people who

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are of a specific caliber so before we

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go into what is light

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or what is dark or you know going in

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uh let me ask you something have you

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ever heard of the term mystic

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sure sure it's kind of thrown around

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oldest mystery schools that we have that

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illusionians uh the illusionian mystery

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that was associated with being a misty

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inner and outer circles like the epotis

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into your inner the inner circle and the

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misty was someone who could see through

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becoming a mystic was like

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we are surrounded by these different

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um and atoms vibrating in different ways

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idea of relativity from

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i mean what your reality is relative to

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to perceive reality a little differently

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that we have this sort of a gatekeeper

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is you know allowing us through what we

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video visual cortices

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through how reality is decoded we have a

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gatekeeper that keeps us sane now if

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that gatekeeper too rapidly if it starts

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to come undone it's like

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to not to get too graphic here but it's

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like a sphincter it kind of keeps

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everything in but if too much

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comes and and floods this will change

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it will change your your personality

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everything will change around you

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so it is absolutely necessary that

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sometimes these things are taken from

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different perceptions because reality is

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reality is decoded differently for every

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um kept away uh it is for those

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who are ready for it it's it's been put

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there it's been hidden in allegory it's

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and these truths come to people if a

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person has a very fragile understanding

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intellectual uh capacity uh or

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that it can start to you know take a

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for a very very long time we've had a

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great understanding on this planet of

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and how to understand this reality and a

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um groups and beings and intelligences

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uh so a lot more knowledge that you know

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in the past

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has been off limits will become

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available on

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you know the bigger stories you know

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people will start talking more about

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extraterrestrials they will start

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talking about

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uh the norm of certain um

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technologies that allow us to access

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different states of consciousness

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and mind but the the the finer tuned

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instruments of of these things might

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become more obscure

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as we enter into this world of uh

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you know the cancel culture for example

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people uh people might be moving into

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this area where they might say

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um why has certain uh knowledge

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you know be hidden into this group or

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that group so it might actually go more

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obscure into the background

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so again the bigger the bigger items of

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the news stories will come forward

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but the uh smaller details will move

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back if that

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makes sense yes and i think we've all

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sort of

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noticed that there has been a shift and

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this is

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it's been going on for quite a while and

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it it's so cliche

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talking about the secret and oprah

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winfrey but in reality

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the new age has kind of embraced this

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yeah absolutely but you know you were

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talking about statues earlier

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and it's it's very interesting because

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all of our ancient cultures and

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civilizations

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they all had statues they had

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controversial players they had

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gods and goddesses and for the most part

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what would what the wise would do is the

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wise when they would notice all these

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people

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bowing before the pre-episode and

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worshiping

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let's say a statue of even if you go to

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the vatican ryan

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you'll notice that the vatican people

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are kissing the feet off of saint peter

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and saint peter it says in the inside

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the catholic encyclopedia is

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just zeus is jupiter the the ruler of

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cassiopeia

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so the the wise have always said that

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when people were bowing before these

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statues

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they understood that they were the

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personification of great truths

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they were the personification of this

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theology

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um for example saint peter as zeus

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is really jupiter in the pageantry in

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his life between the gods and goddesses

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there was an encoded story there also

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about the movement of the stars and

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celestial mechanics and this also uh

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allowed them to understand a greater

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science of life

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one day we will understand that our

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sciences of today

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just like what we have with oppenheimer

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who uh looked at

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the ancient vedas to learn about the

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atomic bomb

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or niels bohr and erwin schroeder looked

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into the the hindu scriptures

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of the bodhida and they they discovered

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that here we had

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to mechanics discovered that all of our

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sciences come from the esoteric they

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come from the occult sciences

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that's where they derive from and you

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know when it comes to these statues

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we have to look at these as symbols of

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our growth and evolution

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and in you know instead of tearing them

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down we could put

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a plot near them giving them more

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context or we could put um

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if we have a controversial figure put a

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statue up next to it that shows our

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diversity and our strength

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um you know if there's george george

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washington let's say if you if you had

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an issue with

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those times we could put up next to it

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martin luther martin luther king jr or

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bruce lee or some of these other great

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american figures

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i don't know if you're aware of in japan

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they have a process called kinsekuro

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where they see an imperfect statue or a

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sculpture or a bowl

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and if it has cracks in it it's seen as

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a thing of beauty because they repair it

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with

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gold in the cracks and the more

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imperfections that it comes at the more

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beautiful

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and so true it it seems like there's a

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lot

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of people are very polarized and they

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have a hard time accepting others

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and unfortunately they don't realize

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that

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the omnitheism is not a negative thing

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it's not a bad thing no uh that's

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that's the thing i mean once you take a

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step back if you talk about

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omnideism or polytheism or any of these

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concepts once you take a step back

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you will realize that all of our

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religions

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and all of our traditions come from a

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divine spark they all have

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a source that leads back into a great

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pattern

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uh once we detach our uh opinions and

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our

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them

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and you know to bring it back to the

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concept that you talked about at the

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very beginning

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when we talk about ancient intelligences

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and we talk about

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groups and mystical traditions and

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magical orders

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let's look at freemasonry for example

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freemasonry

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and uh i'll go on record saying this

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even though a lot of masons will say

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it's not a religion

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um the freemasonry is

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based on the most ancient religion in

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the world

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if you look at the where the concepts of

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it come from and its

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its traditions it is the last great

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keeper of the mysteries

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it's not the only group that has these

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sort of keys

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and it teaches its initiates

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you see this is this is what a lot of

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people get lost and they get confused

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with

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when they start looking at the masonic

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orders or

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on any of these sort of offsprings like

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the golden dawn um

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or even people looked over at the ordo

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templi orients or oto or one of those

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sort of groups

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um the the keys and the system that they

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use

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and symbols and whatnot that you get as

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a classical education

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and the classical education is like the

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trivium and the seven liberal arts and

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sciences

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to look at these sort of things and to

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look at the universe

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um but as you look at these ancient

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systems like the kabbalah

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uh or any of these practices that came

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back these are

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some of many of our groups that broke

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off and branched out from these

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they seeded all the major religions on

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our planet

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uh and really quickly not to get off too

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much in a tangent because i know we

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don't

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have a whole lot of time to explore all

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those things today

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but you know uh you know who founded

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of course yeah of course when

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constantine

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founded christianity he talks about

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seeing something called the

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chiro or the cairo cross and i don't

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know if you've ever seen this rhyme but

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on the side of a church an orthodox

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church

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you may have seen like a p with an x in

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it it's a special type of cross

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and we're told this comes from the

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creatures

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but actually this is a 2500 year old

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symbol

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that was used by the secret societies

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of the holy roman empire and

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constantine's father

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chloros who he knows buried in york

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england

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uh with an alchemical ever burning

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mercury lamp that can burn for like two

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thousand years

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uh as a symbol of this the secret

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society he belonged

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in rome

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was called the collegium artificament

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the college of artificers

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the college of masons the college of

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craftsmen

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uh and so when you look at that

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uh this this secret society is the same

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as the dionysian

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art officers this is the group that the

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knights templars

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came in contact with and the the templar

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traditions that were passed down

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uh the all the early egyptian kings were

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called the artificers they wore the

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apron they

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they they were part of the priest craft

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they held the mysteries for

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thousands of years on this planet uh and

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you know in

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every cycle that comes along there's

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great changes there's great

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um knowledge that is preserved behind

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the scenes and great

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concepts according to the cycles and

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ages that we're in

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that are there so these these keys these

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practices these principles these

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concepts that have been seated by the

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mystery schools

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into our religions and practices they're

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they're all around us and it's

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fine-tuned into uh an ancient science

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and system in our universe

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i i think it's so amazing that

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the the wealth of knowledge that many

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are letting just go right through their

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fingertips

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is is is phenomenal especially in these

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times where we have it at our fingertips

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with the internet

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an interesting thing johnny you're doing

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such a great job in following

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in the steps of the masters and i think

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you know

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it in your opinion i'm gonna i'm gonna

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hit you with some questions i think that

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are you know are

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somewhat telling maybe i could in in my

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humble knowledge but interestingly we

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have

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aleister crowley

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and his pocket swiss tarot deck also

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based on

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the same figure historically

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we have uh blue avians

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which appear to be somewhat similar

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are there connections that you found

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through your research or is this just

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random

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possibility okay well

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let's explore the idea of uh thoth

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our totes and uh let's let's talk about

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that for a moment

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so when you go back to what plutarch

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said

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and uh i won't go into some long

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historical lecture

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and borrow your listeners but when you

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go back to plutarch he said all the gods

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of ancient

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egypt were the anti-diluvian which means

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pre-flood pre-cataclysmic

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kings who are deified or made into gods

574
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,080
after death

575
00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:59,919
so what that means is we have this giant

576
00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:02,000
cataclysmic destruction on the earth

577
00:21:05,029 --> 00:21:04,159
around 12 000 years ago wasn't the first

578
00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:05,039
one

579
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,480
and you might say that there was

580
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:10,559
sort of an ancient technology on our

581
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,200
planet they used the geomagnetic grids

582
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:15,840
uh things like pyramids and obelisks to

583
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:18,400
experiment with energy much like we

584
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:21,360
might see with haarp and other means of

585
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:22,640
manipulating these

586
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,080
uh areas so this this could have

587
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:28,320
very much caused a lot of consequences

588
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:30,559
by experimenting with electromagnetic

589
00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:32,240
energy and gravity

590
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:34,880
uh a lot of knowledge was lost a lot of

591
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:35,679
knowledge was

592
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:38,159
uh rediscovered by the dynastic

593
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:39,120
egyptians

594
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:42,880
so they did personify various symbolism

595
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:45,919
into these gods and ideas and now

596
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:48,960
when you talk about uh toast

597
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:49,919
one of the things that's very

598
00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:52,000
interesting about toth is you'll see

599
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:53,679
that he's a god portrayed with the head

600
00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:55,360
of an ibis bird

601
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:58,400
and there's a very important king now

602
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:59,600
i'm going to tell you right now this is

603
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:00,400
the most

604
00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:03,200
important king in egyptian history to

605
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:04,320
most people

606
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:06,559
uh that look in the mystery traditions

607
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:08,960
and his name is tut moses iii

608
00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:11,440
and top moses iii he was around the 18th

609
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:12,000
dynasty

610
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,919
and he's very important to freemasonry

611
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:15,360
he's extremely important to the

612
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:16,559
rosicrucians

613
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:18,720
the rosary christians consider him to be

614
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,480
their deputy grand master

615
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:22,320
who's an immortal who's still alive

616
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:23,520
today running the show

617
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:26,320
from sort of a celestial or astral

618
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,600
astral lodge

619
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:29,440
uh in fact if you go to amorick you'll

620
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:31,760
see that his statue in california is in

621
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:32,799
front of there

622
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:35,440
now the thing with top moses the third

623
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:36,320
if you go

624
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:41,280
into egypt you'll find a place called

625
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:42,559
herniapolis

626
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:45,039
which is associated with hermes or toth

627
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:47,360
uh today you'll see these two giant

628
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,320
statues of jehotti who is sort of this

629
00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:51,600
uh do you want to look over

630
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:53,440
at like an eight sort of a figure that

631
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:55,760
means to learn they did

632
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:58,240
symbolizes to learn something but the

633
00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:59,440
ibis bird

634
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:00,640
which you have to understand about the

635
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:03,840
ibis and i'm bringing this up because

636
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:06,960
top moses is he's got the name toth in

637
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:07,679
his name

638
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:10,320
it's in his cartouche uh of why why

639
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:10,960
that's there

640
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:12,480
toth is also where you get the english

641
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:14,880
word thought from which is associated

642
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:17,440
with thinking and intellectual ideas

643
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:19,520
and mercury and all those sort of ideas

644
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:22,080
so the ibis bird

645
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:25,360
is a very wise bird it means to be born

646
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:27,840
wise because the ibis knows how to avoid

647
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:29,679
storms it knows the perfect place to

648
00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:32,159
land to get the worm in the ground it is

649
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:34,960
it knows how to avoid danger it's it's a

650
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,159
associated with these

651
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:38,880
these sorts of um intelligences just to

652
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:40,400
have them naturally so

653
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,960
moses was a very very interesting title

654
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:43,919
for him to have

655
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:46,080
and that's a long story about who he was

656
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,360
we could do a whole show

657
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:49,679
about all the secrets and and things he

658
00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:52,400
knew uh in his aunt hatship suit

659
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:54,159
uh because at that time when he was

660
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:56,080
there was the asia all moon

661
00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:59,440
and uh it to not have that as a part of

662
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:00,320
his title

663
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:03,200
like almond hotep uh it tells you it's

664
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:04,799
fitting that he was a very

665
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:07,200
uh important initiate of a special class

666
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:08,480
of the mystery schools

667
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,919
so tut moses uh with him

668
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:14,000
having that connection to toth and the

669
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:15,120
ivis bird

670
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:18,320
the ivisberg's colors are really white

671
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:20,799
black and red okay so there's something

672
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:21,600
very important

673
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,720
that you have to know because the color

674
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:26,159
that the mystery school

675
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,559
initiates would uh would write in if he

676
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:30,480
was writing to another initiate he would

677
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:30,880
write

678
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:33,919
in black and this was only reserved for

679
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:34,640
those who'd

680
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:37,200
understood the mysteries it's just like

681
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:38,080
ryan

682
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:40,400
that if you look over where israel or

683
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:41,919
jerusalem is

684
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:44,720
which there's all sorts of secrets in

685
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,600
that place

686
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:47,760
uh that's why it's very controversial

687
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:49,279
why it's fought over

688
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:52,720
uh that when you look at where israel is

689
00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:54,880
uh it's it's smack dab in the middle of

690
00:25:09,269 --> 00:24:55,960
a

691
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,279
they're written right to left

692
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:11,360
towards the heart and according to the

693
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,880
mystery traditions any

694
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:14,640
esoteric knowledge or secret knowledge

695
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:16,799
was always written towards the heart

696
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:18,320
and if you look over the left all the

697
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,559
languages west of jerusalem look

698
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:22,320
look at the languages they're written

699
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:23,760
left to right

700
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:26,559
and all the knowledge that you would see

701
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:27,039
that was

702
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:28,880
exoteric or for everyone else the

703
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,360
profane was written away from the heart

704
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:33,840
so just like the mystery traditions uh

705
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:35,600
taught moses

706
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:38,640
he would write uh red uh and this comes

707
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,600
from the ibisburg

708
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,760
for the initiates are sorry black for

709
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:43,360
the initiates but write red for

710
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:44,640
everybody else

711
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,960
um which again look at our traditions

712
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:48,480
even if you go to school you use a black

713
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:49,760
pen and a red pen

714
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,960
uh etc etc but the color black is also

715
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:54,240
very important there

716
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:57,200
because um this also is associated with

717
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:58,159
alchemy

718
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:00,640
if the ancient name for egypt was never

719
00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:01,679
egypt

720
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:03,600
that comes from the greeks uh they

721
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,279
called it egyptos

722
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:07,440
and it came from a little stele in an

723
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:08,559
area called memphis

724
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:11,840
the ancient name from for egypt was

725
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:15,200
uh chem or kemet which meant the black

726
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,919
land

727
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:18,240
and it's where we get the word chemistry

728
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:19,679
and alchemy from

729
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:22,799
and that's a whole story in itself but

730
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:25,120
with alchemy there is a process where

731
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:27,200
you take these black materials

732
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:29,919
that would flood up from the nile and

733
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:31,279
you would turn them into a

734
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:34,159
sort of a white gold and again this is

735
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:35,679
where you get the idea of nicholas

736
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:38,159
flamel's philosopher's stone and all the

737
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:40,000
alchemy in europe that came down from

738
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,080
the the arabs from el chemia

739
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:43,840
that they were doing this practice to

740
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,440
get immortality and

741
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:47,440
you get the legends of saint germain and

742
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:49,440
paracelsus and everyone else

743
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,840
well there is also a practice in europe

744
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:53,360
when you see these statues

745
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:55,279
if you see statues in europe that are

746
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:56,960
black statues of madonna

747
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:59,600
or jesus or any of these um holy people

748
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:01,520
this is an alchemical secret

749
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:04,720
of turning these materials and the crazy

750
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:06,320
part about this is that the materials

751
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:07,360
turn from black

752
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,720
to red then to white when the process of

753
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:12,240
alchemy takes place

754
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:15,679
so this pers this this these colors

755
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,320
are very important uh also pay attention

756
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:20,640
to the colors of the egyptian flag today

757
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:23,039
uh however when we come to these avian

758
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:24,640
beings that you talk about

759
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:27,520
most certainly we get the idea of horus

760
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:29,200
uh where we also get the name

761
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,240
horizon from the sun rises on the horus

762
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:34,799
has risen the horizon or that's how many

763
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:37,520
horuses how many hours you have in a day

764
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:40,640
uh these messengers these falcons

765
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,679
were also seen as these um

766
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:45,279
be these sort of creatures that could

767
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:47,200
bring messages back and forth

768
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:50,080
between these two worlds uh when we look

769
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:51,679
at the egyptian underworld

770
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:54,880
and everything else the duet however

771
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:56,799
when you talk about what you said with

772
00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:59,120
blue avians i understand there has been

773
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:02,320
a lot of talk about that and there have

774
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:02,880
been

775
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:05,919
many authors used before some of the

776
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:07,840
popular people today were talking about

777
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:08,240
it

778
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:11,200
uh that talked about uh extraterrestrial

779
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:11,919
contact

780
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:14,960
experiences with beings that they would

781
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:15,600
call

782
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:18,080
blue avians uh one of them i believe was

783
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:19,039
bonnie meyer

784
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,679
another was asiana dean astiana dean was

785
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:23,919
a contactee that wrote many many books

786
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:26,240
from what i have seen from people

787
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,760
discussing this online

788
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,440
that i don't know if people are

789
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:31,440
recycling that those old stories and

790
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:32,399
information

791
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:35,679
um they seem similar in context and

792
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,399
ideas

793
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:38,399
but are there so many different types of

794
00:28:41,389 --> 00:28:39,760
beings that people

795
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,399
uh have talked about with

796
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,520
extraterrestrials if you look at the

797
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,039
context of all these

798
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:47,120
experiences over the years it is really

799
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:48,559
interesting do i think they could be the

800
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:49,840
same as the

801
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:52,159
ones mentioned in ancient egypt i can't

802
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:53,360
tell you that for sure

803
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:55,840
because uh obviously i don't know the

804
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,200
full context of their

805
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,440
contact he experiences i do know one

806
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:01,279
thing that there is a lot

807
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,600
of symbolism and truth personified

808
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:07,120
into the characteristics of something

809
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:08,720
like the ibis and then applied to a

810
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,440
person

811
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:11,279
uh one last thing i want to say about

812
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,360
this this is very similar

813
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:15,600
to you get a story like someone like

814
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:16,880
jesus or

815
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:20,000
uh mithra or zoroaster or

816
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:23,039
uh dionysus you

817
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:26,480
did these people did these people exist

818
00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:29,360
uh some will argue well in their legends

819
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,039
like even the legend of samson with

820
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,279
cutting off his heroic locks this is

821
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:35,840
personified into the coronas of the sun

822
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:37,039
cutting off the locks

823
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,880
um in the mysteries it's always viewed

824
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,480
that if somebody was a very important

825
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,799
person you would personify or symbolize

826
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:44,240
something into their story

827
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,840
or their legend it doesn't mean that

828
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:47,440
they didn't exist because their

829
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,840
their life events are symbolized by the

830
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:51,200
cycles of the sun

831
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:54,080
and astrology it just means that this

832
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:55,279
was a great compliment

833
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:57,200
so that sort of differentiates the two

834
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:58,640
if that makes sense

835
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:01,360
i i think it does at least they they

836
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:01,760
both

837
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:04,480
seem to have similarities and like i'm

838
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:05,520
glad that you brought

839
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:08,240
uh other other theologies in to kind of

840
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,279
explain that

841
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:11,840
johnny where do you think this is headed

842
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:14,080
as far as the esoteric

843
00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:17,919
and the ufo or seeming ufo disclosure

844
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:19,039
that we've seen so

845
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:22,640
prevalent in the media well

846
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,360
i would say that if you see more ufo

847
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:27,440
disclosure in the media

848
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:29,440
that it is a good sign that people are

849
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:31,120
at least opening their minds to the

850
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:32,399
subject matter

851
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:34,640
i see it as the fast food of disclosure

852
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,559
the things that we see they're

853
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,960
it's like the mcdonald's of disclosure

854
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,399
so there's a lot of people talking about

855
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:42,240
the tic tac video or they're

856
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:44,000
they're they're on the fence they're not

857
00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:45,760
sure whether

858
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:48,159
whether oh my god could somebody have

859
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,679
said something in the new york times

860
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:51,360
that we've had awkward the off-road

861
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:52,240
vehicles

862
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:54,880
and we've been working on them of course

863
00:30:58,230 --> 00:30:55,919
we've been working on

864
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:58,240
off-world vehicles you had guys like bob

865
00:31:02,950 --> 00:30:59,200
lazar gene

866
00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,960
huff uh and uh john lear and all them

867
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,559
talking about s4

868
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:06,799
dreamland area 51 where he talks about

869
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:08,080
these nine hangers

870
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,640
and in one of the hangars there was one

871
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,880
that was like a vimana an hp mono then

872
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:14,000
another that was

873
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:17,200
like a perfect saucer style ufo with no

874
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:18,320
right angles

875
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:21,519
and you had all sorts of disclosure over

876
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:23,679
the years come up from ben rich from

877
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:26,559
lockheed skunk works saying that you

878
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:27,360
know

879
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:29,840
when we talk about technology we already

880
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:31,600
have enough technology to take e.t

881
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:34,559
home i mean how many serious credible

882
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:36,559
people do you need to come out to tell

883
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:37,039
us

884
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:39,039
that this stuff is real uh it's not

885
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:41,200
until like the mainstream media gives us

886
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:42,240
a stamp

887
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:45,039
i i'm not one of those people that is

888
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,480
holding my breath

889
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:48,720
over the the big time disclosure i think

890
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:50,640
that a lot of politicians

891
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:52,799
come out in the news whether you know

892
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:55,519
it's john podesta talking about ufos

893
00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:59,919
or um a clinton or trump or rubio or one

894
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:01,840
of them mentioning ufos i think a lot of

895
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,679
them have campaign managers that will

896
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:05,679
come out and they will say

897
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:07,039
this is a good way to get yourself on

898
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:08,640
the news to say that if you get elected

899
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:09,760
you'll look into this

900
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:11,760
it's harmless to your campaign and you

901
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,960
might as well say it

902
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:14,960
do they actually believe in ufos at the

903
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:16,960
end of the day i don't know

904
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,399
uh most certainly you could ask someone

905
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:20,640
like grant cameron about that or

906
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,559
um you know like a steep asset or

907
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,840
something like that who are out there

908
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:25,440
looking at politicians and taking what

909
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:26,399
they say

910
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:29,519
um to heart and and following up on it

911
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:31,679
for me i personally think what's going

912
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:32,720
to happen

913
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:37,679
during this decade is that you're slowly

914
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:38,399
going to get more

915
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,080
drip drop you will get an idea when we

916
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:43,919
put up the james webb telescope

917
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:45,679
when it replaces the hubble you'll start

918
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,360
getting confirmation

919
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:50,399
that nearby that we have

920
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:53,440
uh life on other planets and

921
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:55,360
other solar systems that act like ours

922
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:56,720
it's going to be like when you

923
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:58,240
get when you replace the hubble

924
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:59,840
telescope altogether and when we look at

925
00:33:01,750 --> 00:33:01,039
james webb it's going to be like

926
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:01,760
somebody

927
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:03,679
who needs glasses we all know someone

928
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:05,039
like that that walks around

929
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:07,600
that is seeing everything blurry and

930
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,720
they don't see anything then all of a

931
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:10,000
sudden they go get their eyes

932
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:11,679
fixed and they put on a new pair of

933
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:13,120
glasses and they're like oh my god that

934
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,880
blurry picture and now has somebody in

935
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:16,159
it waving at me

936
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,519
and what you'll find is that you're

937
00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:19,279
going to find private companies

938
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,039
out there like even right now where you

939
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:22,880
have elon musk

940
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:25,120
who's very he's very protected and what

941
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:26,960
he does and very directed in the

942
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:29,039
uh as far as his efforts and you have

943
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:30,799
guys like jeff bezos and others

944
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:32,720
that are in a race right now these these

945
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,000
private corps that

946
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:36,080
are putting their bids in and that will

947
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:37,679
give us the tech to go explore these

948
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:38,320
places

949
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:41,120
i think it's going to be very much like

950
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:42,640
they're going to put it into our hands

951
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,840
so we have this christopher

952
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:45,600
columbus-like experience where we're

953
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,480
going out there

954
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:48,720
we're discovering them but i can tell

955
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:49,840
you right now ryan

956
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,519
i don't care what people think right now

957
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:53,360
of me saying this but

958
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:56,000
not only have we been visited for a very

959
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:56,880
long time

960
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:59,120
i know that for a fact every one of our

961
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,720
ancient religions every one of our

962
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,559
cultures is indicative of that

963
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:05,039
but a lot of what happens on our planet

964
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,279
today is being dictated from

965
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:09,359
uh what's going on about 3 000 light

966
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:10,560
years away from here

967
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,960
and in fact our visitors that come here

968
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:14,079
that are watching us

969
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,599
like a great zoological experiment they

970
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:19,679
have all sorts of different intentions

971
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:21,359
there's different groups here

972
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:22,800
working with different areas of the

973
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:24,800
planet for different reasons but they

974
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:25,359
also

975
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:27,679
watch things on earth they watch earth

976
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:28,399
tv

977
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:30,000
i happen to know for a fact that they

978
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:31,679
watch the super bowl

979
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:33,520
and they watch other things uh and

980
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:34,960
they're fascinated by our music and

981
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,639
they're fascinated by us

982
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:38,480
i'm really glad that you bring up the

983
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:40,159
super bowl because

984
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:42,960
it has become a bit of a ritual in it of

985
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:44,240
itself

986
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:47,599
but um it it it does seem that that

987
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,240
these sports arenas ever since the

988
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:52,800
coliseum have been areas of interest

989
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:55,440
not going down that path necessarily i

990
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:57,040
wanted to get back to how

991
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,800
funny it is that the people like you

992
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:00,480
said elon musk

993
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:03,839
this this recent project and the

994
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:06,320
anticipation i have friends at nasa i

995
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:06,960
get it i

996
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:10,240
love it it's very it's a proud moment

997
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:13,119
but at the same time the populace has no

998
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:14,800
idea what we're doing

999
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:18,079
yeah it's it's a crazy world at the

1000
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:18,880
moment this

1001
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:21,359
we're going through some changes uh we

1002
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:22,720
we got to look at it as

1003
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:24,960
we're going through a growth and an

1004
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,240
evolution

1005
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,560
and i know that it's going to be scary

1006
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:30,240
for people at times

1007
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:32,240
uh on this great shift that we're going

1008
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:34,079
through but we have to go

1009
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:35,839
into our hearts we have to go into our

1010
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:38,160
minds and and realize that we chose to

1011
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:38,880
be here

1012
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,880
at this particular time you can say

1013
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,640
we're going to be sped up

1014
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:44,880
we're going to be going through some

1015
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:46,400
massive changes

1016
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,680
uh especially after the fall and uh

1017
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:52,560
it is very amazing that a lot of what we

1018
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,599
see even with these

1019
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,520
different sports arenas and and people

1020
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:57,440
getting very emotional about that

1021
00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:00,160
is it just goes to show that thinking is

1022
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,760
hard work a lot of people

1023
00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:03,599
uh we've come to this point where we've

1024
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:05,040
realized a lot of people

1025
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,640
don't like to do their own thinking they

1026
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,800
like the media or another group to think

1027
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:10,240
for them and tell them what to think and

1028
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:11,200
what to do

1029
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:14,320
i think even more so than ever

1030
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:16,160
at this time it's a good it's a good

1031
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:18,000
lesson for us to remember that we should

1032
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:18,800
think at least

1033
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:22,160
one original thought a day and uh

1034
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:25,520
maybe it is a good time for us to

1035
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:28,400
realize that the only way out is in uh

1036
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,280
that

1037
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:31,680
when you want answers you get them in

1038
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:32,880
quietude

1039
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:36,560
word

1040
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:41,040
ron there's an old saying

1041
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:43,520
it's old wisdom that says be still and

1042
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:44,400
no

1043
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:46,400
and i i believe that whether you're an

1044
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,599
esoteric

1045
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:50,160
or you're a skeptic or whoever you are

1046
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:51,520
no matter what you're going through in

1047
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:52,240
your life

1048
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:53,839
you can get a lot of healing by going

1049
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:56,480
into nature or just by quieting your

1050
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:57,280
mind

1051
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:00,560
by going into your heart by just really

1052
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,079
um moving into that place of this center

1053
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:06,160
within yourself and within the universe

1054
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:09,200
and a lot of the shirts will come to you

1055
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:12,079
that is great it's johnny it's so rare

1056
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:13,200
to have someone

1057
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:16,240
so genuine and so genuinely dedicated

1058
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:18,640
to the craft of researching esoteric

1059
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:19,440
history

1060
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:22,240
of humanity thanks so much for coming

1061
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:22,480
and

1062
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:25,599
chatting what johnny where can listeners

1063
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:26,800
support you

1064
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:29,119
your efforts and keep up with your

1065
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,040
projects

1066
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:32,880
well thanks so much for having me on and

1067
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:34,880
for the kind words ryan

1068
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:38,480
and uh again it's it's a real pleasure

1069
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,520
and it takes one to no one uh for people

1070
00:37:45,710 --> 00:37:43,200
who want to find out about my work they

1071
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:45,720
can go to my website at

1072
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:47,760
www.metaphysicalsource.com they can

1073
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:48,560
follow me

1074
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:51,520
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1075
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:53,920
course on facebook at johnny enoch

1076
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:56,160
and with that being said i think

1077
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,720
everyone listening to this podcast today

1078
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:01,040
should like it subscribe share it with

1079
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:03,040
your friends and keep listening to ryan

1080
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:04,880
he's doing great work

1081
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,440
oh thank you johnny in humble servitude

1082
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:09,440
thanks again my man all the best until

1083
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:10,960
we speak again

1084
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:14,079
i thank you right back at you johnny

1085
00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:18,240
enoch whether it's on gaia

1086
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1087
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1088
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1089
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1090
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:33,920
was such a great guy extremely helpful

1091
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1092
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johnny enoch please support him

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1112
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1114
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1115
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keep your eyes to the skies feet on the

1120
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